View Full Version : DD times for Anaeth, Hirion, Kunigunde, Reimou, Tinubelin (aka "my" group)
I figured I should put up a thread where we can post times that we are available for continuing our Dark Delvings learning experience so that we dont forget what we picked up through our hard work so far.
Could you all post times when you think you can participate in Dark Delvings run, or write when you can not play. Its nothing definate but would help in coordinating us all and better cirkle in suggestions for when we all could be available.
Personally I can play every day with a questionmark for the weekend 26-28 June as I dont yet know my plans (its midsommer fest weekend in Sweden). I would also prefere to start around 18-19 (swedish time - I guess that is CET??) or earlier so it wont get (as) late (as previous times we have been running).
Again this is nothing definate or absolute.. just my input on what would suite me the best. If we all write a few lines what is best for each of us Im sure we can compromise a solution that works for everyone.
Hey Ei, yes it's CET you mean :)
I am available almost everyday with the possible exception for e few days during summer if my wife sister come and visit us. I would also prefer if it would be started around 1900cet, at least until june 29th (Vacation begins, yey).
If you need a LM with good tactics on DD, I'll be happy to join with Loreriel :D , only tonight I'm in 16th but can play from after 20.00 CET if you need me.
Tinubelin
15 Jun 2009, 10:20
This week 15.-21.06
- Tuesday and Thursday (both starting earliest 19:00 CET, possibly later)
- Friday (likely from around 17:00 CET)
- Saturday (early afternoon - ....)
would likely be fitting for me.
See you soon, folks 8-)
I will be gone from Sunday morning and a week - this week I might be available Thursday or Friday night. I might be around Monday-Wednesday also, but due to work and some meetings I don't know for sure when I'll be around. Also, I'll be teaching some days this week, so that limits how late I can play.
My new computer is expected to arrive within the next few hours - and even if I hope for a smooth transition, it might also inflict on when I'll be ingame again.
And of course, if not all six of us can find a time together I suggest that we of course bring other RRUers to fill up the ranks.
I won't be around from Wednesday or Thursday till Sunday this week. You know how we Finns are during Midsummer celebration :)
Yeah! My baby has arrived! A well-shaped baby girl of approx. 26 kg! _O_
I'm off to try to get her up and running - hopefully uttering her first 'Daddy' within the hour. If not, then you know why I'm not around.
Rhyaehar
15 Jun 2009, 12:47
Make sure she doesnt burp. I heard they can be quite nasty.
Notiane
15 Jun 2009, 14:00
Congratulations, Hirion.
On topic, should you need a loremaster, minstrel or captain to fill a gap, I'm online most
evenings, so just ask /raidsrus
Grimbos
15 Jun 2009, 14:03
If you need a champ, drop me a note and I'll make sure I'm there
Burp or not - I'm Back!
...and I've already found the first thing I've forgotten to move from my old pc to the external HD to transfer it.
Now to installing that game.
from the replies so far it seems our earliest attempt to assemble a group should be for tuesday 1900 (tomorrow).
letssee if get more input.. else I will be online tomorrow at 1900cet and check if we have a group ready to run (if were online or not I mean hehe) . and I agree with Hirion that we can absolutely and gratefully fill up with players from RRUS who are not part of the "original" group if all six of us cannot participate. In the name of fairness for the time and money we have spent on trying to coordinate ourselfs (I ve probably spent 20-25g+ all and all already on this DD effort as have most of us I reckon) the original group of six always has priority to fill "our" group as far as I am concerned- but if that is not possible then help is gratefully accepted as RRUS is a cooking pot with awesome players in a mixed ragu:)
Thanks to Eveningstar, Notiane and Grimbos for your willingness to help out /bow. Its nice to know that there are more people who want to get this done.
I think I mentioned a meeting tomorrow - I will not expect to be home to 19.00 CET. But I might join you later that evening, though since I'm teaching Wednesday I can't stay past midnight.
On the plus side - my game is now patched (took less than 10 minutes using Raed's, I believe it was, advice on simply copying most of it from the old PC via an external HD). The game seems to be running extremely smoothly, though I have to get used to different keyboard and mouse and to slowly get my old key-setup etc set up. Really is a joy to not sit in the same room as my old Boeing-level machine - this one barely scratching 10 % CPU usage when I play at Ultra High graphix. :P Yuuummi!
Raedwulf
15 Jun 2009, 16:37
Not my credit, buddy. Bothorn, I think, with Rhy chipping in at the end...
Hey maybe you sound like those two talking at the same time? ;)
A big warm fuzzy feeling toward Rhyae and Bos then! Couldnt believe how fast this went.
Rhyaehar
15 Jun 2009, 16:49
I feel all warm inside now
The game seems to be running extremely smoothly, though I have to get used to different keyboard and mouse and to slowly get my old key-setup etc set up. Really is a joy to not sit in the same room as my old Boeing-level machine - this one barely scratching 10 % CPU usage when I play at Ultra High graphix. :P Yuuummi!
ooooo the envy!! ./mood_jealous
well atleast you can now properly admire all my different outfits and cloaks on highest settings :P
jokes aside, congrats on your new baby/toy. sounds like a lovely piece of technology.
For the Gurvand fight I have worked hard to shave down my interrupts to 10 seconds so that oughta help a whole lot compared to the 20 seconds of cooldown that I had on Stamp skill on our previous tries. Didnt have any time/luck to find any Skumfil questmode groups so still dont have whole set of shadow mitigation gear but as we were so close to defeating him last time I look forward to next go.
Letssee what (if anything) tomorrow (mmm actually later today) brings.. I hope to see a happy and bloodthirsty bunch of adventurers online at 1900 so lets hope we all can make it.
Letssee what (if anything) tomorrow (mmm actually later today) brings.. I hope to see a happy and bloodthirsty bunch of adventurers online at 1900 so lets hope we all can make it.
Just to repeat myself: I will not except be online at 19:00 CET tonight.
Kunigunde
16 Jun 2009, 09:44
well ill be on at 19:00 CET, lets see what we can do
Otherwise than that, i could come tomorrow and possiblx Friday.
I am not sure about the other days of the week as Joerg and I tend to have a RL too :)
Just to repeat myself: I will not except be online at 19:00 CET tonight.
yep I was emphasizing (spelling?!?!) the "lets hope" part :lol:
Silirien
16 Jun 2009, 10:35
If you need a fill-up for your DD, I'll gladly help out.
I am not sure about the other days of the week as Joerg and I tend to have a RL too :)
Im not sure if I heard about this RL thing before? Is that when the servers are closed for weekly maintenance and you go to the store to restock on coffee and rice crispies?
Rhyaehar
16 Jun 2009, 11:35
Im not sure if I heard about this RL thing before? Is that when the servers are closed for weekly maintenance and you go to the store to restock on coffee and rice crispies?
Yep
Nono, it is the period where you are pressing the "Log In" button every 5 seconds for few hours.
Nono, it is the period where you are pressing the "Log In" button every 5 seconds for few hours.
Oh! So that is what I am doing right now? Real life. See you in a bit (as soon as the Log In button responds.
it turned out that it was not possible to coordinate a DD run for tuesday.
---> summary of posts so far concerning this week;
Kunigunde---- can come wednesday, possibly friday
Eiyja---------- wednesday and thursday ok from 1700-2300, weekend uncertain
Ariabereth----1900 and onwards most days
Tinubelin-------This week 15.-21.06
- Tuesday and Thursday (both starting earliest 19:00 CET, possibly later)
- Friday (likely from around 17:00 CET)
- Saturday (early afternoon - ....)
Hirion--- might be available Thursday or Friday night. might be around Monday-Wednesday also.
Reimou---- won't be around from Wednesday or Thursday till Sunday this week.
Conclusion of summary... Seems there is no day this week where all 6 can be online at the same time for certain. maybe try aim for next week instead and if we all happen to be online some day/night before that- then just "pug ourselfs" ??
After talking with those who was able to be online tuesday at 1900 the shared opinion was quite firm in preferring to beat the instance within the group that we started our DD training camp with before we start swapping players for other players.
Well it is a busy week. Having work, off-work meetings, a big venue Saturday plus also trying to put last details to a journey across Europe (tour leader for a bus-full people to a destination I havent been to before), having taken over the project with too many things still unsettled even if leaving Sunday...
Things, however, are starting to come together and if all goes well I might be available for an attempt tomorrow evening - should it be possible to gather enough of the merry band.
Maybe try aim for next week instead and if we all happen to be online some day/night before that- then just "pug ourselfs" ??
Cool. I want to pug myself :shock: But... hmm... what happens if I tell myself 'No'? :p
Things, however, are starting to come together and if all goes well I might be available for an attempt tomorrow evening - should it be possible to gather enough of the merry band.
Cheers. Lets also hope Reim's fingers itches too much so he be around too.
I think that the little change in tactics we did last two attempts on last run vs the adds made a huge difference.
Im sorry I messed up and I think us wiping this time was my fault (was tired, overfocused on interrupts alone etc etc bla bla bladi blaa) ..excuses XD
next go I will be super focused on watching for and calling out his buffs.. and make sure to get more coffee before we run!
Kunigunde
22 Jun 2009, 10:04
So the week is fresh and new, what do we do? :)
i have time tomorrow prolly (Tuesday) and on Wensday & Thursday
Friday is a maybe
I want to down the Turtle one of these days too
when does the Rest of you have Time?
Tinubelin
22 Jun 2009, 10:43
I'm very likely free on Thursday and Friday, also Saturday early afternoon. All other days might work or might not work for me - but if I'm there I'm open for something spontanously.
And I'd like to do the turtle too - so let's get hooked up.
Anyways, just wanted to remind you that Hirion is away this week, so we will have to find a replacement (Joerg maybe?).
And let's weave in another instance in between - to drive away the gloom of defeats by Gurvand by some success 8-) How about Skumfil or Fil Gashan to get some stuff from there for a certain little hobbit warden? ;) *wink, wink*
I certainly can be pursaded to join you, but I'm afraid I can't come on Friday.
Kunigunde
23 Jun 2009, 09:46
How about some 16th hall on thursday? we certainly can do that good enuogh. We have a Tank and a Captain stand in (Joerg)
I still need shoulders for Alwing too ;)
Yup, I'm away - but for tonight I've found myself an hour of internet time. See you all next week - hoping to bash Gurvand senseless (as senseless as my debut as guide has been so far hehe).
Thursday 25th to Sunday 28th I think I can come any time part from Thursday before 1700 and also the same day between 2045-2300(ish) (Semi final 2 in Continental cup on the telly.. Brazil vs South Africa). As Sweden plays England in U21 worldcup in football at Friday about 1730-2030(ish) I gotta watch that too hehe. From Fri-Sun Im all free for whatever except from the Sweden game on Friday night.
I hope we wont forget about Gurvy when book 8 comes, alas I am open to other stuff part from Dark Delving as well. A morale booster with an "easy" instance might not be too depressing after our notorious dirtnaps.
Now Im off to watch USA-Spain :D
Tinubelin
29 Jun 2009, 10:30
Welcome back, Hirion.
Tinubelin
29 Jun 2009, 10:47
Ok, to revive and refresh the DD strategy discussion....
I picked up a this tactic from some aquaintances of mine that run this instance regularly on "farming mode" with their kin. It requires a very good deal of precision and coordination, but i think it looks very promising.
These are the starting positions for the fight.
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk139/gashnakhrat/DDPic1.jpg
Pretty much straight forward. The tank runs straight through the boss and turns him towards the rear and the minstrel stands behind the tank. At this point if it's a Guardian he casts Shieldwall and protection on the minstrel and just tanks away. The other fellowship members run to their corresponding mobs and take them down as fast as they can. Hunter and LM on the ones furthest away to range them down.
After all 4 adds are down (everyone should announcethat their mob is dead and be running to the champs position), the champion turns on his light rune (bottom left corner) and and takes position at the edge of the area, facing into the middle.
The minstrel will then run ahead to the same position as everyone else and stand with their back against the rune stone. Everyone takes up positions, hunter and lore master to either side of the minstrel and captain in front, but behind the champ. When the minstrel is moving into position the tank will back up towards the lit rune, moving backwards slowly to avoid thatthe boss ends up in the light. The tank will then take up position directly next to the champ on the edge of the light and continues his tanking on the boss (he can deactivate shield wall and protection on the minstrel now if he wants to).
The positioning ideally should be kind of like this...
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk139/gashnakhrat/DDPic2.jpg
From this point on the champion does nothing but play clobber bot. No attacks other than auto attack. The loremaster and hunter start to dps the boss down (by this time, the tank should be good in control of aggro).
An important role in this fight falls to the captain. He will be assisting on healing on the tank and champ. As the mobs start spawning again, the loremaster and the Hunter will be in charge of burning them down one at a time as quickly as possible (they should not all respawn at once), then when they're down.. continue to dps the boss. IF the minstrel grabs aggro from one of the mobs and starts to drop fast, captain MUST use In Harms Way and if needed, Last Stand.
Rinse and repeat....
Tinubelin
29 Jun 2009, 10:52
This sounds like a promising tactic, as it removes the disadvantages of fighting in the dark (including having to start over the whole instance because the debuff frequency becoming too high). Although it likely will take a few tries for a group to execute it well, since it heavily relies on great coordination and precision. And I'm not sure how to recover from missed/evaded/.... clobbers. Maybe have the tank on interrupt backup and coordinate really well.
Duh, i always thought -turning on- the lights would deactivate hard mode here.
But then it's exactly following the words - fighting him in the dark. Must have been designed by a lawyer.
Sounds interesting. And with our current number of visits to the Dark Delvings loosing a HM on a formality is a small loss if the possible gain is verifying a genuinely novel way to do this.
I will be available all week - with the threat of call-outs as I'll be on duty. Tonight I have to go to the Firehouse tonight (I'll be home by ~ 20:30 CET) but other than that my only other possible distraction is my brother visiting from overseas at some point during the weekend, though I don't know the specifics yet.
Hoping we can try this soon. Other than that, I'm also happy to wet our appetites on other instances (my mouth being awfully dry after a week down south).
Derigar/Tarinas
29 Jun 2009, 15:49
Wow, never even considered this as a possible tactic. You're right though, get the positioning and timing of the pull right and you'll be in a vastly superior position than before (with full minstrel healing and full induction based DPS, i could see this going onto farm status once the tank masters the movement
Wow. We really have to try this method. I can go any weeknight this week.
bothorn
29 Jun 2009, 23:23
Aye very clever, sounds reminiscent of standing in a certain cave mouth in another instance. :P
Tinubelin
30 Jun 2009, 00:17
Aye very clever, sounds reminiscent of standing in a certain cave mouth in another instance. :P
Not so sure about that... the devs always said thereīd be something players were missing when doing the instance.
Anyhow, i tried this tactic today with a few friends, and it worked really well, only we dragged him in a bit too much so we lost hardmode. But thatīs finetuning it.
Derigar/Tarinas
30 Jun 2009, 01:36
I did think it was odd whenever i saw hard mode accidentally failed in there that he would just destroy the light straight away - i couldn't see any benefit of it (unless it stopped the adds or something i didn't see). The fact that you can get the bonus of the light while keeping him in the dark makes a lot of sense, doesn't feel like an exploit either (unless, as i said, i missed something about turning on the light with him in it too).
Does this mean that you cannot bring him to light or just not kill him in the light? If the latter then you could fight him in the light the whole fight and drag him out in the dark just before you kill him...just a thought.
Rhyaehar
30 Jun 2009, 16:36
The HM objective is to fight him in the dark. If that means standing in light, as long as he doesn't enter it, will only be found out while testing, but I am very interested.
Tinubelin
30 Jun 2009, 17:20
Does this mean that you cannot bring him to light or just not kill him in the light? If the latter then you could fight him in the light the whole fight and drag him out in the dark just before you kill him...just a thought.
I can say as much that you cannot bring him to the light, as soon he enters the light, the HM chest crumbles to dust.
Now, the next step will be to actually verify HM won't be lost if the group stands in the light, but always keeps Gurvand in the dark.
Derigar/Tarinas
30 Jun 2009, 18:48
Does the chest 'un-crumble' when the fight resets, or do you need to just reset the whole place?
Tinubelin
30 Jun 2009, 19:27
Does the chest 'un-crumble' when the fight resets, or do you need to just reset the whole place?
not sure yet. When I did DD with some friends yesterday we were pretty tired, and so decided to just kill him anyway rather than resetting - we all wanted to see him dead and go to bed with a smile. ;-)
A quick question about the first part when you have 4 overseers to deal with. Do all run to a stone an light it up and kill it in the light or try killing your overseer in the dark? They are pretty strong one-on-one in the dark.
Tinubelin
01 Jul 2009, 11:01
A quick question about the first part when you have 4 overseers to deal with. Do all run to a stone an light it up and kill it in the light or try killing your overseer in the dark? They are pretty strong one-on-one in the dark.
In the dark, and if possible in any way (unless you're ranged DPS) in melee.
Kunigunde
01 Jul 2009, 12:31
how about a try tonightz... until you are all spamming the 3 man instances
:P
I'm game (but also on call...).
I can help as well, if needed. I'll be online, so just ask on the RRU channel for me.
I'm game for tonight. If you dont see aria,ana or fen look for nickwise
gona log on the game now :D Im game for tonight but canīt stay later than 2300 CET today. Tomorrow and the weekend I can play any hours.
Come Saturday I'll be away for another two weeks. And I really want to see Gurvand down before that (the Watcher too, but that's another story).
Any chance we could do this on of the coming days? I'm otherwise on vacation, so day hours are as good as evenings for me.
As for evenings then I will suggest Thursday - or possibly Friday or even tonight (though that's too a short notice for me to think it's possible).
Rather underwhelmed by the responses. Had hoped Book VIII wouldnt shatter the work we've been doing in the Dark Delvings - by pulling attentions elsewhere. And had hoped to down Guervand before leaving, again, but apparently not.
See you all in a couple of weeks.
What day (date?) will you be back, Hirion?
Derigar/Tarinas
23 Jul 2009, 16:14
Well i'm always around to help with DD, just thought you wanted to keep your original group together. Really would like to see this place going down again
Milgarion
24 Jul 2009, 09:46
My Hunter is eager to complete the set so I'm interested in seeing this bugger dead a few times. I've tried it several times recently with a Kin group of 6 to 8 people, with varying degrees of success. Even tried with a knowledgeable PuG a few days ago and we blitzed everything up to Gurvand, then wiped..
Don't want to rain on the original group's parade though.
What day (date?) will you be back, Hirion?
As of this minute.
Have been out of touch of civilization for the last forthnight Eiyja, so excuse my late answer. :)
But boy it is good to be back *sets course for Middle Earth*
Kunigunde
27 Jul 2009, 12:21
so have time tonight for DD, that ist monday 27th
who else has?
Milgarion
27 Jul 2009, 14:40
My Hunter could be available. Need a bit of advance warning though (ie. proposed start time) so it doesn't clash with my Burgling activites.
I think it's time to reactivate this group.
So next try for this: Wednesday, 12th August 20:00 CET.
Hopefully this will bring back some life to our effort to be successful.
It's been long enough and it is time to get on with it! Guervand needs to die...
Dark Delvings on Wednesday 12th August at 7 PM BST. Priority given to the people with us there before, but if not enough others will be welcome.
Yey. and i got the time in CET too
Wednesday, 12th August 20:00 CET is perfect!
wednesday 12th august 20:00 CET
Im willing to join.
Ok, to revive and refresh the DD strategy discussion....
I picked up a this tactic from some aquaintances of mine that run this instance regularly on "farming mode" with their kin. It requires a very good deal of precision and coordination, but i think it looks very promising.
These are the starting positions for the fight.
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk139/gashnakhrat/DDPic1.jpg
Pretty much straight forward. The tank runs straight through the boss and turns him towards the rear and the minstrel stands behind the tank. At this point if it's a Guardian he casts Shieldwall and protection on the minstrel and just tanks away. The other fellowship members run to their corresponding mobs and take them down as fast as they can. Hunter and LM on the ones furthest away to range them down.
After all 4 adds are down (everyone should announcethat their mob is dead and be running to the champs position), the champion turns on his light rune (bottom left corner) and and takes position at the edge of the area, facing into the middle.
The minstrel will then run ahead to the same position as everyone else and stand with their back against the rune stone. Everyone takes up positions, hunter and lore master to either side of the minstrel and captain in front, but behind the champ. When the minstrel is moving into position the tank will back up towards the lit rune, moving backwards slowly to avoid thatthe boss ends up in the light. The tank will then take up position directly next to the champ on the edge of the light and continues his tanking on the boss (he can deactivate shield wall and protection on the minstrel now if he wants to).
The positioning ideally should be kind of like this...
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk139/gashnakhrat/DDPic2.jpg
From this point on the champion does nothing but play clobber bot. No attacks other than auto attack. The loremaster and hunter start to dps the boss down (by this time, the tank should be good in control of aggro).
An important role in this fight falls to the captain. He will be assisting on healing on the tank and champ. As the mobs start spawning again, the loremaster and the Hunter will be in charge of burning them down one at a time as quickly as possible (they should not all respawn at once), then when they're down.. continue to dps the boss. IF the minstrel grabs aggro from one of the mobs and starts to drop fast, captain MUST use In Harms Way and if needed, Last Stand.
Rinse and repeat....
I love this.. this is great!!
Dellannan
12 Aug 2009, 15:19
I can confirm from personal experience, that the above tactic DONT work. The hm is lost regardless of where Gurvand is located when you light one of the stones.
I was in there and lighted a stone in another branch then where gurvand was just to try this out, and we imediately got the on screen message that we lost hard mode.
I can confirm from personal experience, that the above tactic DONT work. The hm is lost regardless of where Gurvand is located when you light one of the stones.
I was in there and lighted a stone in another branch then where gurvand was just to try this out, and we imediately got the on screen message that we lost hard mode.
I would expect it to be lost, but just to be certain, especially as other instances have had bugs putting a script essentially saying the HM was lost yet finding the HM chest still there, so did you kill him on that occation (and without getting him in the light) and did you find the HM loot missing then?
It is not that I doubt you, it is just that I want to be absolutely certain before ruling it out.
Alright; I see Kuni, Joerg, Ariabereth, Eiyja and I up for this. There has been no response from Reimou or Tinubelin, but I hope at least one of them will show up and we will be ready to go at it. Or both as I am on call, as earlier mentioned. I've already had one call out today, but I hope the remaining part of the day will be calmer...
See you all in two hours hopefully.
Im thinking about how to handle the adds after the first 4 are killed.. burglar enrage to force them to melee combined with some runspeed debuffs (hunter/runekeeper??) should allow us to nuke the ones that spawn wihtout them being able to even hurt us before they are dead?
Seemed to me we were able to kill the first 4 and start damage Gurvand until at some point the people who are to kill adds started to take some heavy damage from the respawning adds so maybe that woudl be a way to do it?
Go to bed Eiyja! Or you should have stayed for another run rather than write here! :twisted:
See you all Saturday at 13:00 CET. (That is at 6:30 HAT for those needing to know _O-).
Derigar/Tarinas
12 Aug 2009, 23:59
Hmm, ever tried bunching up behind the stone before? Might force the enemies into melee as they'll need to run behind the stoneto get a hit in (assuming they can't reach from the side platforms). Of course this would require the players to all *really* bunch up, but it would seriously reduce the difficulty in having to slowly chase down the adds.
Tinubelin
13 Aug 2009, 11:27
Alright; I see Kuni, Joerg, Ariabereth, Eiyja and I up for this. There has been no response from Reimou or Tinubelin, but I hope at least one of them will show up and we will be ready to go at it. Or both as I am on call, as earlier mentioned. I've already had one call out today, but I hope the remaining part of the day will be calmer...
See you all in two hours hopefully.
Just for the notice ... while I was following the discussion (more or less), I did not sign up or anything because dates on weekdays right now, are a liability to me. It's not out of disinterest :shock:
My work load and schedule is pretty tough right now ... but I'm really looking forward to Saturday. 8-)
Dellannan
13 Aug 2009, 15:01
Hirion: We didnt manage to kill Gurvand after we lit one of the lights, as the others in the group lost fait and didnt wanted to up the repair cost even more.. And I already have the helmet so I kinda agreed with them.
So I cant really confirm if that message is really not breaking hard mode, but he got an icon that is whole black when all 4 lights are out, and that changed to a glimpse of light when we lit one, so concerning the icon and buff he gets from it, i would say that hm is broken.
How did the run go yesterday? Did you figured ouot more of this batle?
Cheers Dell - just being methodological about it. In any case we did not use that strategy with lighting a light (though I'm still tempted to try it).
As for yesterday, we did two runs. For both of them I was amazed at how smoothly and speedily we reached Guervand - and that in spite of not having been there for approx. 2 months. First attempt went reasonable, but alas it didnt cut it either. Second attempt we experimented and things turned pear-shaped.
I'm partial toward either sticking with our original thought, like in the first of those, or try it once to turn on a light, keep him in the dark, make sure to make it and then see if the chest despawns with the script or not (and if we go at is as yesterday then I'm sure we would be able to light the light and kill Guervand) - and it might be worth it just once to rule it our affirmatively. But then again I have been the minstrel last night and those inductions are a hell in there - and just as well we had some very good results with having me as healer in a light, while the other fought in the dark, on the second boss, when we did the two runs last night.
But for now we will carry on Saturday...
If you need any extra with you I can go. Was a while ago since I killed Gurvand and would love to get him down for fun. I try to be online at 13:00 CET saturday.
Can come with my listed chars :)
If you need any extra with you I can go. Was a while ago since I killed Gurvand and would love to get him down for fun. I try to be online at 13:00 CET saturday.
Can come with my listed chars :)
Thank you for your offer Eveningstar, but we are already one too many for tomorrow.
Oh and we talked about working the pull on the adds, but did we ever actually test it?
I am very keen to try this (http://www.lotrolife.com/gurvand_hard_mode_walkthrough/) tomorrow. We should be able to fit in those classes, or at least something very similar.
That is the tactics I have been using when i go in there. You have to be careful so Gurvand dont throw everyone when tank dies. It is good to have a FM at that point for the healer to have time to rez the tank.
Yeah and have to coordinate when for the champion (or warden should pick up agro while the guard is reset/defeated).
Did you have success with this strategy?
yes, it works. requires good coordination. Everyone except tank must ball up close to the stone.
How about a new run on wednesday the 19th at 1900CET. Yes, two from the original is away but maybe we can find a stand-in?
Was actually considering hosting a Watcher-raid Wednesday...
So many mobs, so little time ;)
Oki. There is a DN on thursday so how about friday then?
I'd be very grateful to join in on DD if you ever need a minstrel. I see that the date is moving around a bit at the moment but I'll be available every evening this week :)
As you can see it never got past the 'considering' stage. I'm gae for DD tomorrow if we can drum the people together.
And thank you for your offer of standing in Fanna.
this weekend (friday night - sunday) I can go any time you want
By the looks of it I might be booked all three nights + saturday morning/noon, however if we are enough then I realy want to do this again.
Time to sharpen the blades, restring the bows, dig in the powerpool, spit in the fists and go .... you know what (:x don't want to jinx it).
Dark Delvings on Friday, September the 11th at 7 PM BST (2000CET). Priority given to the participants of the original group.
If you got spot for a LM, loreriel would be intrested to lead you trough it :P
Tinubelin
09 Sep 2009, 16:05
I think I can come (~ 90% sure), but I'd prefer to come with Tinubelin rather than Andelas. But we can figure that out by then.
Kunigunde
10 Sep 2009, 07:53
Ok, I'm in as well. Let's get him down finally. :)
I can come as well, depending if you need one of my level 60 chars. Of course if you get the whole original group together I'll step down.
This last night has been a turn for me - I still have fever and still can't eat (for the third day), but if this turn in the right direction keeps up I'll hope to be able to join tonight (though without voice). I reckon my minstrel would be the best to bring, as he has the best shadow defence.
Ouch! Not fun, not fun at all.
But if you feel you have replenished some energy we would love your company to bring the doom to an end in this dark coner of the world, although the concept of a quite Pelli feels a bit weird ;).
Tinubelin
11 Sep 2009, 15:40
This last night has been a turn for me - I still have fever and still can't eat (for the third day), but if this turn in the right direction keeps up I'll hope to be able to join tonight (though without voice).
Get well soon!
If you need a champion for this, I like to join with Danin. (I'm not after the coin if that helps).
PS Hope Hirion gets well soon.
Let's revive the quest to take him down!
How about another afternoon runs day on Saturday 26th of September. As starting time I would suggest 14:00 CEST, if that's ok with you.
I want in. I am on call though so you know what that entails. Cannot swap anymore than I've already done to sort out raid leading.
Im in. Saturday at 14:00 CEST works for me.
Btw I dont need his helmet anymore.. just want to see him defeated!
Tinubelin
22 Sep 2009, 16:47
I'll try to be there, with my usual social life & wife (it just rhymes, actually, we're not married) restrictions.
I don't care so much for the helmet (it's Andelas only anyway, that lacks it). I just want to bring the A-Team - which for me means bringing Tinubelin - and get that account settled.
This is a matter of pride now 8-)
Notiane
22 Sep 2009, 18:48
I want in. I am on call though so you know what that entails. I should be around so give us a shout should Hirion be called out.
I believe we would need tank, captain, ministrel, loremaster, champion and either BRG or HNT.
atleast that would be my ideal setup.. maybe RK instead of HNT can work though HNT can take more inc ranged damage (or can they? - I think they can thats why I think HNT is better)
anyway.. my point is that what is wiping us more than anything else is that when the inc. damage debuff grows the people who are assigned to kill spawning adds die. Therefore my suggestion of BRG/HNT.. fight them either wiht strength stance or enrage to force melee.
the runner-up reason for why we dont succeed so far is that we cant damge Gurvand fast enough.. need more dee-pee-ess.
Sometimes it feels this instance is just uber-hard.. I have the greatest respect for those few who have completed it in its current ("fixed") version of DarkDelvings. The day i nail his head to the wall above my fireplace at my house will be a good one.. or atleast I will come visit the person who walks away with it. And make a toast, damit!!!
:D
This saturday isn't the best for me. I can stay there for 2 hours tops then I am off for a dinnerparty
Derigar/Tarinas
23 Sep 2009, 19:33
Inductions and and that increasing debuff are the killers here. Personally i feel avoiding induction classes whenever possible would help a lot. Also, a burg with traited disable and counter defence helps considerably - kill him faster when the reflect buff is down, but take ~36% less damage at all other times.
As for the adds, i was under the impression that if everyone bunches up tightly behind the runestone, that the adds have to run round into melee to get into LoS?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQpOtvHt22k
here is from a champions wiev how they handle the adds and kill Gurvy..
Id like to point out that they are using YYYYYY every time they get a FM on Gurvand and greens if the FM is popped on any add.
I never managed to see what it was that killed their captain towards the end of the battle but it seems the whole FS (except tank and ministrel) are jumping the adds asap when they spawn and when Gurvand has his Bleeding Ears buff (= reflecting) up they all wait on the side of the big rock so they have about equal distance to run to either Gurvand when his Bleeding Ears buff is gone or to the spawning adds- which ever shows up first.
Maybe we could try to copy what they are doing? On this video they make it look quite simple, even.
Tinubelin
26 Sep 2009, 12:59
Ok, i saw it coming .... :shock:
I can't join today (at the scheduled time) - it's really hard for me to allocate two afternoons on the weekend, and tomorrow is watcher time ...
I'll be on a nice boat trip enjoying the sunshine and my lovely girlfriend's company, so I won't be too bad off either ...8-)
I already spoken to Hirion, and we managed to convince Reim to step in, so a replacement has already been found.
I wish you all the very best of luck with the bugger. Get him down ! :roll:
Oh, and for strategies ... I found this video here and I found it was pretty interesting how they managed the kickbacks. Maybe this would be an option to try out as well.... all in all I think this fellowship had an amazing control of the fight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPJfOUFX3RA
Oh, and for strategies ... I found this video here and I found it was pretty interesting how they managed the kickbacks. Maybe this would be an option to try out as well.... all in all I think this fellowship had an amazing control of the fight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPJfOUFX3RA
Just tried this out. After only two failed, but decent attempts, we had him down to 3.000 morale when he killed us on the third. Then we ran out of time.
This is definately workable. I even suspect we could be able to farm it soon. But more importantly - this fight was bloody fun compared to everything else we've thrown at him.
I simply can't wait 'till the next time!!
But more importantly - this fight was bloody fun compared to everything else we've thrown at him.
uh.. you mean heīs been throwing us dont you? :X
yeah this tactic is a keeper.. and boy did burglar help a LOT. I canīt wait to go back in and finish him off- it finally feels like its going to happen :Y
Could we plan a date, I am really looking forward to do this again :twisted:. I think currently it is Peli who has the busiest schedule to upcoming days so I think it would be better if you suggest a date.
Tinubelin
29 Sep 2009, 09:24
How about a breakfast at Gurvand's on the upcoming Sunday?
Things are not looking good for this week - or rather I am possibly occupied at the hours you might be available. I am going to a wedding Saturday and I'm part of a national fundraiser Sunday, which will last all day and I do not know when I'll be home in the evening.
Wednesday night I run the Watcher, which will be a close fit, having a meeting earlier in the evening. Thursday and Friday there's the DN-raid and I expect some of us, even if my own attendance isn't settled yet (another meeting), will be signing up for that. An option would be tonights - but that is party with a short notices and I have another meeting tonight. I don't know when it will be done but I would not want to promise anything short of 22:00 CEST.
That more or less leaves either afternoons and mornings - I'm available Thursday and Friday for those or late evenings after meetings and/or the raids.
sounds like a tight schedule. if you fill it up any further you wonīt get any time left for sleep :)
how about next week? Tuesday or Thursday afternoon/evening?
sounds like a tight schedule. if you fill it up any further you wonīt get any time left for sleep :)
how about next week? Tuesday or Thursday afternoon/evening?
Or more importantly - time to play!
Got a meeting Thursday reaching into the evening. Tuesday would be good. Though I hate to wait another week to kill Guervand!
would be fun to go sooner ofc but if cant then cant..
Im game for next week tuesday (6 Oct) if we get our group together. Can stay until 2200 Uk/ 2300 CET time
I have nothing else planned for that day, so whatever suits people..
That is indeed a nice date for me to. :D
Tinubelin
02 Oct 2009, 15:11
Hey! This should be a nice date for me as well.
It's incredible, but I've managed to contract streps less than a month since last time. Beside being extremely annoying it is more so as I was going to a wedding tomorrow of one of my oldest friends - in fact the same guy who's polterabend I missed when I was down with streps last. :S
This means my schedule for this weekend might look very differently - and I would be around, where I had not planned to be at all. I was quick on the doctors this morning and on penicillin already, hoping it will be caught earlier. Long story short I might be available for killing Guervand.
PS: Beginning to consider having those tonsils ript out.
Tinubelin
02 Oct 2009, 21:55
I won't be around on Saturday due to a trip away. But I am there all Sunday, more or less...
As I feared, Kuni and myself won't be available on Tuesday, sorry.
Tinubelin
04 Oct 2009, 18:58
This afternoon six brave adventurers set out to restore their own and their friend's pride. With high hopes and trembling knees, but a steadfast will they entered the Dreaded Dark Delvings (aka DDD :shock:) to challenge the leader of said place to a fight.
Drawing upon the knowledge gained and painfully assembled tactics this fellowship stepped in the dark place... [to be continued sometime maybe at some campfire...]
Anyways, the ping pong tactics we worked out really worked flawlessly with a team of Guard - Champion - Captain - Burglar - Minstrel - Hunter. The fight was absolutely smooth and victory never even remotely endangered. I think using this tactics we could get this on farm really quick.
Thank you all for the wonderful run, that was brilliant and a lot of fun :)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2452/3980790710_77bbc784ff_b.jpg
Indeed, it went so smoothly that I wonder if we were in right instance :)
Hihi, was my first time in DD and I kept wondering what the fuzz was all about :P
The rumours had already reached me, by Ariabereth. Well done - and on one hand annoyed I couldnt come and on another happy it went as smooth as last time promised. Now I'm looking forward to returning even more! See some of you Tuesday.
Iasselm
05 Oct 2009, 16:21
'Anymith flexes mightily'
Really great job guys, only +60% incoming damage at the end of the fight and less casualties then on the 2nd boss. Really should do that again some time.
So Tuesday approaching.
So far I see Eiyja, Tinubelin, Ariabereth and myself ready and able. I know Reimou might have missed this post so I'll grab hold of him ingame tonight. That leaves us with 1-2 spots to be filled.
As for classes I reckon Eiyja will be tanking (a.k.a. flying) again, that I will be expected to bring Pellinor, that Ariabereth will then captain, and Tinubelin joining either as hunter or lore-master, leaving Reimou (if able) to come as champion or minstrel. This will have to fall into place before we go recruit the last one(s).
What time would suit you fellas? Around 8 o'clock CEST? Or maybe even a little bit earlier?
Tinubelin
05 Oct 2009, 18:57
I fear, due to our kin raid being (unexpectedly for me - thought our minstrels would be on holidays still) scheduled for tomorrow evening, both Reimou and me will have to pass this Tuesday.
But, this tactic is easily adaptable, so you should be able to fill in others.
However, this instance is really fun and I'm very eager to repeat our success, if possible in several different setups, until we really own the place. This week is a bit tight for me, but I'd be available on the weekend. Maybe Sunday after the watcher runs?
Notiane
06 Oct 2009, 11:33
Seeing you still have a few spots to fill, I can't be sure to be online at 20.00 BST, but probably will be. Gimme a shout if you need my LMR, CPT, MNS (or even brg, but not that comfertable playing him in groups yet)
sure 20 CEST works for me.. earlier also works if that is doable for everyone.
Thanks for the extra hand also Notiane and everyone :D
oh p.s. hihihi
"Your mighty blow defeated Gurvand." /flex
Sounds good - though just to clarify we spoke of 20:00 CEST, and Notiane about not being available at 20:00 BST (which is one hour later).
But with at least 3 or 4 people we should be able to get the rest sorted, whether waiting for Notiane or taking a crack at it earlier.
Tuesday is tv-series night (Heroes, House, Two and a half men, The big bang theory and How I met your mother) so I won't be able to make it. Was easy enough as healer though so anyone should be able to fill in :)
Runyawen
06 Oct 2009, 13:29
Wait, wait, all that on tuesday?! Which channel? :o
Since there was some confusion on time, and not thinking Notiane will be around untill at 20:00 BST, I expect to be ingame at 20:00 BST at the latest.
I need a break for now, so see you then if not before.
Tried the "knocking back over platform strategy" yesterday and after a few close runs he went down. Since we didnt reset instance the wind came every 1.30 min so we faught a few min in +100% incoming damage. At that stage a second healer or a burg is very good to have.
But it didnt seem so hard if all focus and dont get thrown down. We had some of those in other runs and when 1 fall down it is usually a wipe.
/Gorli
Certainly great to see him down - good work and well earned all.
I think it is a considerable strength of this strategy, even if requiring a lot on several classes, that we were able to fine-tune it within a few attempts, even bringing only 3 of the original outfit and bringing people to the fight for the first time. Especially the tank, who's job is so unforgiving, as a single misstep in placement and angle will wipe the raid. I do know it was a steep learning curve for you Abarax, the work of the tank in this particular fight, but it is a testiment to your skill that you scaled it well - or we quite simply would not have made it.
I am also glad that Abarax got himself a new helmet - even if very coveted by everyone he is the one amongst us who was missing having one or more alts with raid-level radiance. Welcome back in the raid circuit Ab, though I would welcome you on the Watcher, I hope you will look toward DN (once you get those measly +5 you need for that place), as I know guardians have been meager in sign ups there.
For the rest of us: I want back. I want to beat the crap out of Guervand; and I want us pull a cartload of helmets from his stash! Though, when is again the eternal issue....
P.S.: Gorli glad you also liked it, and gratulations to your group too. It was sort of memorable to see several messages of besting Guervand in the RRU chat within minutes. We also had a few wipes, 3 I believe, before we nailed it, and that last fight was memorable, with 2 people defeated near the end, and all of us on low morale when we nearly mass-suicided (Oathbreakers had just been called, when Guervand that sly fox, retaliated with tossing up Bleeding Ears - that would have been a very very nasty wipe - almost laughable).
Raedwulf
07 Oct 2009, 10:54
You can always give me a shout if you're short on numbers. Four of mine already have the helm, but most of them still have deeds to finish in there, so I don't mind having a hack.
Appreciated Raedwulf. I'm also at the stage, while liking the effort the core people of this effort to at least manage once to go together on a kill, that I'm hoping for us to get more and more people up to speed on this fight - but for more to reap the rewards as well as with more people knowing it the more easy it will be gathering teams for it.
I have two characters, which would benefit from the helmet, one who would then become Vile Maw ready and one who would be free of DP-dependencies if ever needed in DN. So I'm clearly interested in smashing this instance up now we have a decent grasp on it.
Aikanaron
07 Oct 2009, 11:08
If possible and if there is space I can bring a captain who I want geared up for the Watcher and DN.
Thanks again for having me in and telling me time and again that the losses before Gurvand's eventual fall weren't my fault. Though I knew I wasn't carrying out my role well enough, I can understand that it's a challenging fight for the tank, but good tanks should be able to do it, so I look forward to perfecting that role. (It's also a tough fight for everyone else I know).
For reference, while it - no doubt - should be the GRD/WRD that call's "REFLECT" and the countdown on that for Bleeding Ears, it's mighty hard when the tank is trying to hold aggro without his cries, and turning G around to face the right way etc. That said it's not impossible and at an earlier hour (with a less itchy-eyed tank ;)) calling it would be much easier.
Apologies again for ninjaing the coin. Though it does now mean I'm available for the Watcher and a step closer to DN, I couldn't help but feel a little bad in coming back to the RRU fold recently and taking the helm. I'll be aorund much more now though I should think, so I'll be more than happy to lend a hand where needed for others to get it.
Anyway, thanks again and well done all :D
Ab
Tinubelin
07 Oct 2009, 11:59
Thanks again for having me in and telling me time and again that the losses before Gurvand's eventual fall weren't my fault. Though I knew I wasn't carrying out my role well enough...
I think you did splendid and improved with every attempt, and that's what counts.
and turning G around to face the right way etc...
I think the easiest way to achieve this is to position yourself a bit back from where you want him to stand and once he reaches you, walk though him so he HAS to turn on you. Much as the guard in the video I posted somewhere in this thread does. But then we were all kinda tired :shock:
Apologies again for ninjaing the coin.
You just rightfully took your chance to roll and earned it, so stop excusing yourself :)
Thanks all again for the fun run
Milgarion
07 Oct 2009, 14:23
It was very satifying to see V2.0 go down finally.
My HNT (obviously to those in the group) & BRG still need the helm so I'm up for going again now I KNOW he can be beaten with that all important x-factor: teamwork.
Abarax, you certainly didn't 'ninja' the coin. You more than earned the right to roll. You won, simple as. As Hirion stated you were playing your main, so arguably your need was greater than the rest of us 'alts' who rolled for it.
Luck turned out in your favour, but I think if it hadn't been in the middle of the night and if I hadn't been dead tired I would (as would the master looter as well as the rest of us I think), have had the time to offer it to you regardless without rolls, as we should have done.
Luckily luck was in your favour... had we only know you were stealing off with it on vacation!! :evil:
Raedwulf
07 Oct 2009, 15:10
Luckily luck was in your favour... had we only know you were stealing off with it on vacation!! :evil:
Mark my words, first tavern he stops at (which won't take long to happen), he'll barter it for an extra large flagon of ale. By the time he comes back, it'll be the usual upturned slops bucket protecting his ugly great bonce! :P
Luck turned out in your favour, but I think if it hadn't been in the middle of the night and if I hadn't been dead tired I would (as would the master looter as well as the rest of us I think), have had the time to offer it to you regardless without rolls, as we should have done.
Luckily luck was in your favour... had we only know you were stealing off with it on vacation!! :evil:
So I should have had it without rolls, but got it with rolls, but wouldn't have got it anyway? Makes sense :D
Makes sense :D
Perfect even.8-)
Derigar/Tarinas
07 Oct 2009, 18:47
Impressive work, glad to see you've finally got this fight cracked. As per my varying posts in this monster of a thread, i'm always up for helping with this place. Found it a shame its run so infrequently.
Rhyaehar
07 Oct 2009, 21:54
Could you guys write up a guide on the fight and stick it in the instance guides? Saves the rest picking bits and pieces out of posts.
I am working on an updated version of the method we are using there atm
In regards of the pms I mailed to "my group";
so Ive suggested Friday 4th december and Sunday 29th November but not all in our old gang seem to be able those dates.. Any other suggestions??
I can not join on monday or tuesday evening next week (30th November = last filikul rumble and 1st December = kin Watcher at 20UK).
other afternoons and evenings Im free.
I can do 4,5,6. Mirkwood will still be there even if we step back into moria :)
Tinubelin
29 Nov 2009, 21:46
There will be a landrush anyway, and I'm not to keen on it.
For me, Friday late afternoon is good (although I have yet to confirm a specific time, as it seems I might have an interview for a new job on next Friday and don't know the time yet). Saturday/Sunday should be fine as well, however, I'd personally prefer afternoons to evenings.
Nice then we are 3 people who can 4-6th dec (fri to sunday)
Change of status: For reasons of personal nature i cancel my availability this weekend
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