Caught hand in the cookie jar.

[Hirion]

I normally dislike naming and shaming, but I am about to make an exception. Not only because this a known and repeating offender, but because he has conned the RRU too - in an ideal world his kind wouldn't be on the server, but I guess naming and shaming is the only way to warn other people not to be conned.

Imagine yourselves at the end of a 2 hour march into th 16th Hall. Imagine killing the Lost One - and that you have finally won the coin roll after several attempts at the instance. Now imagine the fellowship leader grabbing the coin and run for the hills!!!

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/9052/ninjaafa.jpg

And Foreverwind (a.k.a. Bigtam) is no stranger to us. Some might recall that he joined us on our second consecutive run in Filikul last Thursday - he being one of 3 Pick-up-people added to our raid. Then a 1st Age Guardian legendary dropped and since there were no guardians with us our raid leader (Hal I believe) asked if anyone had a guardian alt close enough to 60 to have a use for it. Foreverwind claimed he had one and he walked away with the 1st Age... He actually never had no such guardian, but he did make a nice profit from selling that item on the Auction House however..!

This is not about the pixels to me, not that gear are not wonderful toys, but at the end of the day this is about fair play and this chap knows of no such thing, so now you are all duely warned; and I for one will never group with him.

P.S.: I believe he was kicked from his kin for that 16st Hall stunt, so don't let this reflect on his kin-mates (of which I hold several in very high regard).

[Raedwulf]

Nice bloke. Thanks for the warning. Seen him around, always thought both names were stupid. Never fellowed with him, never will!

[Haleabor]

Utterly outrageous!!

[Rhyaehar]

Words.. Fail..

[Raedwulf]

Not me, they don't. Cos you know the one thing everyone can do? If you ever see this utter arse advertising on an LFF channel, you're quite entitled to point out that's he's thieving little toerag (or call him a ninja looter, if you want to be a little more polite). Ditto to your raid or fs, if you find him in your group.

You can't do anything to him personally, but you can do your best to make his reputation stink to high heaven so that no-one will ever want him in their party. And, so long as you don't overdo it at any one time, if a GM ever says anything to you about harassment, simply point out that if he were ticketed for being a ninja, the GMs would say that they were unable to intervene in inter-player disputes, which is what this is - you're doing the only thing you can to stop him...

(And if anyone needs evidence, it's always here in this thread.)

[bothorn]

I didnt know this guy was bigtam till someone mentioned it and I remember grouping with him in annuminas from time to time, he is and was a shadey type, as for that incident with the Grd spear I put that name on my friends list just as hal assigned the thing and saw his "alt" was online in a group so i think he's indentified it, its been crap and he sold it.

Anyhoo just dont give him the time of day the guys a prick.

[Abarax]

Complete Idiot.

[Derigar/Tarinas]

Seen him advertising for groups for quite some time now, never did group with him though. Thanks for the warning, will proceed to name and shame whenever possible

[calabam]

ha bigtam mind i used to see that name a lot , seem like i long time since i have seen it though .

[Silirien]

Doesn't this qualify for a report to a GM?
I think if you write to gmsupport@codemasters.com (I think that's the right mail), he might get a few days ban. Not to mention he'll probably land on an ignore list of most of us.

[Abarax]

Doesn't this qualify for a report to a GM?
I think if you write to gmsupport@codemasters.com (I think that's the right mail), he might get a few days ban. Not to mention he'll probably land on an ignore list of most of us.


who? ;)

[Raedwulf]

Doesn't this qualify for a report to a GM?
I think if you write to gmsupport@codemasters.com (I think that's the right mail), he might get a few days ban. Not to mention he'll probably land on an ignore list of most of us.

You can try, but I suspect their response will be as I've already noted. It'd be nice if they took away the stuff he ninjaed or the money he made from selling it though!

[Derigar/Tarinas]

Update for anyone interested, he's had his name changed to Nidhog - guessing he's run into a lot of problems with his other name recently. Still, worth keeping a watch on his name regardless.

[Silirien]

He did, Amberwing kept on warning people on globallff that he ninjaed stuff on a run he was at too.

[Hirion]

Sil, Amberwing being ninjaed is the one in the screenshot above.

Nidhog is such a fitting name - I wonder if he knows Nordic languages/norse legends.. Adding him to your friends' list or ignore list will make you able to see whatever name he changes to. I want to know who he is, to give him a wide berth, not to attack him, though I am not into hunting him down on the chats - though I made an exception last night when he openly lied about his turtle run with us and ever having gotten that 1st Age guardian legendary. Tarinas did too, but from the tone of the discussion we both kept it clean while refuting his lie.

As for the culprit - I see him changing kinships again and again these days, he is constantly hung out on the GLFF, I hear the GM's are screening his mailbox as people have been bombarding him with less than kind letters and when online he stays in anon: frankly I think there is a limit to things - I sort of hope he makes a new character or transfers to another server for a fresh start taking with him a valuable lesson. In the meantime the community might also move past this... I do have him on tabs and I have and will warn friends and allies as I have done it here, but at the same time the community at large seems solidly planted on the fine line between a justifiable 'cry wolf' and a genuine witch hunt.

[Derigar/Tarinas]

As long as it remains civil, there shouldn't be a problem.

[Raedwulf]

...and a genuine witch hunt.

Ah, but if you're talking in those terms, it is as well to remember that he is a proven witch. If he's burning at the stake, he put himself there.

[Milgarion]

I think it's safe to say this guy's dispicible behaviour has been well and truly outed on global the last few days. To wish that he leaves for another server would be unfair on their population. What we need is scum like him to be encouraged to quit the game altogether, though how you'd go about doing that I really don't know.

[Rhyaehar]

Get him banned for harassment. Provoke him (in a civil manner), get him to start foul-mouthing. Something will be done by GMs, maybe, you know how they are.

[Hirion]

To wish that he leaves for another server would be unfair on their population.
For me it was with the thought of him taking his lessons and living by them in place were he is not know... If not, then I agree; I wouldn't wish it on any other server either.

As for harrasment, the Nidhog says that the GMs have told him that what he did was wrong, but not against the EULA, and that he should ticket people badmouthing him. It might be correct, though for him to flaunt that himself in the GLFF only begs for more negative fallout.

[Silirien]

Actually, what he did is against EULA. It's called griefing.
GMs don't know their own rules, that's why in situations like that you're not supposed to bother with them but write to 'Higher Powers', quoting CoC or EULA if necessary.

That's what I had to do when I lost Dawn Rose Ring of Tactics due to dc - ingame GMs told me no items will ever be reimbursed, which is not true (CoC). But after I wrote an email explaining the situation to GM report, I did get reimbursed in the end.

So, actually, you can write a complain about those GMs answer, say that you and all other party members feel griefed and even more so after those GMs answer.

[calabam]

Was having a look on the AH last night for books and pages for my tank and it seemed this nidhog was selling just about every book page going at inflated rates .. real nice guy this :N

[Iorielin]

You know this is not the first time he has ninjaed something. I was a member of his old kin back in the days when he ninjaed the slime from helchgam for his captain(Bigtam). Im not sure if capts need it or not, but I dont think so as he sold it on AH shortly after. Ofc he was outed on GLFF but somehow did not get kicked from the kin.

Also my whole new kin hates him and has him on ignore, and Im pretty sure the same goes for my old kin.

But thats it for me aswell, gonna put him and his alts on my ignore list now as the evidence is clear, he is a fucking ninja!

[Eiyja]

When Warriors of the Fourth Age discovered that picture posted in beginning of this thread (about immediately after the whole drama happened as the link was cirkulating on all official channels) our kin leader took the desicion to kick Foreverwind/Nidhog and all his alts out from our kin.

As for the Turtle run and the spear he won (I believe this was a few days prior to the ninja looting the 16th hall coin) when claiming he has a guard alt I know for a fact that he did this as he bragged shortly after to me and another guard in our kin how he won it by telling the raid (didnt know at the time it was a RRUS raid- its a small world) that his guard alt is Eiyja.

Later on he changed that story to have used the other guardians name (Tormund) so I dont know if he actually claimed me or Tormund to be his alts. in either case its pretty bad and you can see we were both pretty upset about it as there might still be people out there who think that either me or Tormund are his alts.

FYI he also claimed to have sold the spear on AH for 52 gold just before he got kicked from our kin.. nice little profit that.

To clear our kin name we finally also offered Amberwing a compensation run where 5 of our kinsmen would accompany her to 16th hall with the sole purpose of letting her master loot the coin for herself this time. After a few days of waiting for Amberwing to come up with a date suggestion for this run to happen she let us know that she already got the coin in a new run with her kin. We were reliefed to hear that as it kind of put things back in balance.

I dont feel good at all when stuff like this happens in my kin as it gives not only the ninjalooter but all of his kinsmen also a bad reputation. It felt really bad to watch words such as "Ninja Warriors" and "Fourth age ninjas" being used in official chats the upcoming days after what happened.

Glad this has blown over now. Just wanted to share my wiev on things and to clarify to everybody who was on that Turtle run together with Foreverwind aka Nidhog that;

1) he has NO guardian alts
2) and they are NOT named Eiyja or Tormund
3) my kin is an honest one and Nidhog got the boot immediately after the whole ninja-episode was brought into daylight.

[Rhyaehar]

Just wanted to share my wiev on things and to clarify to everybody who was on that Turtle run together with Foreverwind aka Nidhog that;

1) he has NO guardian alts
2) and they are NOT named Eiyja or Tormund
3) my kin is an honest one and Nidhog got the boot immediately after the whole ninja-episode was brought into daylight.
1) We figured ;)
2) That would have been hard, as they were online at the time (during the looting).
3) We know WotFA is an honest kin. Don't worry. No one here is judging your kinship by Nidhog/Bigtam's behaviour. He's a rat, not your kin.

[Derigar/Tarinas]

Never saw the actions of one petty kid as a reflection on you or your kin. Infact it became fairly common knowledge that he was kicked out for doing this very quickly, which shows strongly that your kin does not stand for these actions.